I'm a woman and I usually wear size 8.5 men's shoes. I ordered them at 8.5. They fit but there is absolutely no extra space. My finger is all the way up. I'm sure they can be quite uncomfortable with any actual wear. I want to order another half size up, but now we're talking about a $50 price increase. Obviously, size 9 is very popular on this shoe. So why 3 stars? Aside from the sizes not quite fitting, the shoes themselves are wonderful. The material is thick enough and the shoes are well padded to be comfortable. And all for $15 (now $22, prices change all the time). The color (black) is well saturated, the color doesn't bleed onto anything and the extra set of laces is a great finishing touch. So you have a dark pair and a light pair, both of which complement the color of the shoes. Also, it doesn't fit or look like it's bigger. Not sure if it's the rounded toe or something but it's a really nice shoe. Unfortunately I have to send this one back and consider spending $60 to replace the shoes I originally bought for $15 just because I want to order a size up.