Well I kept this new belt in my closet without paying attention to details, I had an old forest. belt and I wanted the same one because this old one was so good. Well after trying on the new belt and looking very closely I found that this new one is so different from my old one, the old one is much better. The leather is much better, the buckle is much stronger and looks better. I don't know, looks like I'll have to call Timberland and find out what's going on here. Do I have a fake Timberland belt here? Update: After a while the belt is so bad that I'm rubbish, it's so cheaply made it just wasted my money