So you know these are glove liners that do NOT protect against the wind. The packaging is marked with Ultra Max Lightweight Glove Liner. I tried them for the first time today - March 3rd in upstate New York - and used them as standalone gloves while driving and running errands. At 25 degrees and sunlight, they were fine and kept you warm. That was until the wind started blowing, then my hands got cold. As driving gloves they are too slippery to use as they have no grip points. They fit well in my snowmobile gloves and I'll see how well they work as glove liners when riding. I'll get back to you soon
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