This is the first time I've used zip ties, they're rubbish, they're not good, they don't work if you go through them, they either break or it will just don't let this shock me because I've been buying zip ties for years. I've never had bad zip ties when you look through that little hole that wins that little lever that breaks every time it's such pathetic velcro for your yard. Good but these zip ties are totally useless on zippers
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