These aren’t great. I have some pants similar to these and way prefer the others. The waistband and cuff are ugly and dumpy looking. They are made of a different material, so it just looks clunky and not well made. They are fine on comfort and I bought them for camping. They were lighter weight than I would have though and was in high wind and they are not wind resistant. The wind goes right through them. Overall they are fine for camping and hiking, but I wouldn’t ever wear them for anything other than that because they just aren’t flattering in the fit.
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