I really thought this was the kind of shoe that didn't need to be tied. I thought the laces stopped at the top because the photo looks like it. Since I bought these for my child who goes to kindergarten, I didn't want the teacher to have to deal with unbuttoned shoes. I've also sprayed them with Scotch Guard and they still have a light stain even after washing, stain removal etc. Overall I could handle them if you were wearing them for light use or with a big kid, but they're quick ugly in the playground and the whole tie thing is impractical
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