I ordered these tips to create more friction when drawing on the iPad. From this point of view, they worked perfectly. I bought these to use while waiting for my pen.tips order. For what you get for the money they are ok. The tips of my apple pencil keep falling off. My order came from pen.tips and I switched to pen.tips and what is the difference. There is no comparison between them. I would recommend spending your money on pen nibs and only using them as a last resort.
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