I ordered a white shirt with a 17" collar and 32/33" sleeves to wear to the funeral as I didn't have time to go shopping in town. It's very well made, but the sleeves are about an inch shorter than the Men's Wearhouse shirt of the same size, making it a little tight. It served its purpose, but I'm going to donate this shirt. However, it's good enough that I'm considering ordering the sleeves a size up.