These pants are well made and look to be high quality.However, the size of "M" that I always wear for these pants is far too tight in the waist.I have also ordered the the Large size and found that these Large pants fit way too tight also.I am disappointed, but having returned the Medium size pants, I have received the Large size and will with my wife's help enlarge the waist size to fit me comfortably.Martha and Lyford Morris