I ordered three Berfine straps but only one Panerai strap. I put it on Citizen "Atomic Time", model AT4000-02E. It looks and feels good, but this watch requires you to bend the pins a bit to get the strap to fit. This isn't uncommon on some watches, but it's why you can't use the included pen tubes. The watch came without a deployment clasp but probably would not fit as the strap is 24mm the full length. I really like the buckle on this band and am not a fan of buckles in general as I usually prefer deployment clasps. I think the 4mm thickness is perfect for the 24mm width and for my watch. The strap on my Citizen is also 4mm thick in the middle but tapers towards the edges and therefore feels thinner. The Berfine tape is 4mm thick edge to edge and edge to edge. The color of the black stripe that I received is definitely black, but it has no sheen and may appear a little muted at first as the stitching is slightly off-white. light brown or beige. As mentioned in my other review, I haven't owned any of these Berfine straps long enough to know anything about their durability, but they appear to be very well made and I love the aesthetic. Let them know if they wear out quickly or if there are other problems.
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