Well, I want to give 5 stars, but I can't. While these pans are great, the rust factor is sad. It would be easy to make that pan liner strong so water doesn't pool in it and leave a rust stain. While it rubs off easily enough, this shouldn't happen. This simi is well made. Rachel, the company that makes your brand, could do a little better. Even if they are hand washed, they still rust. A simple fix makes a firm pain without rolling under a finish you can't get up to dry under. Then there would be no better pan on the market. You rated them as if they were better. I still love their products but could improve on this. Modern women love the dishwasher. All in all I will recommend.
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