I really wanted to like these shoes as I was looking for a flatter landscaping shoe. I am currently wearing Timberland Pro steel toe boots but after 9 hours of work they get quite heavy and some jobs don't need a steel toe. These shoes have zero support and feel like cheap bowling shoes or cardboard strapped to your feet. I even tried adding gel inserts but they still didn't support. If these shoes were more comfortable and at least offered SOME support I would be happy with them. So disappointed.