I ordered these shoes hoping they would fit better than most wide shoes. Most shoe companies that make wide shoes seem to think that every wide foot is also a tall foot. who have wide but normal feet when it comes to size from top to bottom. While this shoe fits the length. Because of their size, my feet would slide back and forth even when the laces were in contact with each other. I even tried using thick inserts to make the inside bigger. But it didn't help.