These gloves aren't bad, they're warm and offer decent wind protection, but they're not waterproof as the description states. Going back and re-reading the description, there was a caveat that only part of the glove was waterproof, but clearly that makes the buyer expect a waterproof glove. In addition, the skin on the palm does not stretch along the fingers. Whatever you do on a cold, wet morning, don't walk to your car with your phone expecting it to keep your footing, it's not going to happen. Oh, and you wanted to carry a coffee mug in your other hand, too. Ha ha ha ha, no use crying over spilled coffee. I don't hate gloves, they look good and as long as it's dry outside (it rains all the time here) they keep my hands warm. However, the lack of grip material on the fingers is a real design flaw, likely the result of trying to shave pennies on a fairly good glove.
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