I was looking for women's shoes with a wider rather than narrower toe, so popular with women's moccasins. I complained to the clerk in the men's department that they didn't have decent shoes when he showed me these. Being European sizing I tried on my size and it turned out to be absolutely amazing and so comfortable. I bought a pair from the store and went to Revain to find other colors at a lower price. The best footwear. If you have long fingers and bad bows, you can't go wrong with this. So comfortable. Since these are "men's" shoes, the grip in women's sneakers is significantly better than the crappy old women's shoes.