Okay I originally gave these pants a one star bad rating, they obviously sent me the wrong size pants, I was unhappy and ended up giving them away but out of the Nothing and without In response, another pair of pants came to the seller, what I must say is what I expected from the beginning, these pants are very nice and comfortable, I have them all day in 40 degree weather with cold Wind borne and kept me warm and toasted, they are well built and stylish, a bargain at this price point. I'm only giving 4 stars because I have to try them on a rainy day. I'm glad the seller compensated for this. I still don't know how they compare in terms of sizing from china with chinese tags but I'm usually between 35-36, I ordered a size 35 and it fits well, a 34 might fit because they are stretchy, definitely the price worth, yes I would recommend their pants.
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