I tried using fewer hair ties. They do a really good job, you just have to know the right hair technique with them. You can't just tie a knot and expect it to stay in place. It's just stupid. I accidentally lost the white one and my hearing is a bit damaged. But Black fulfills a double duty. No rips, scratches, tears or other defects. I use it almost every day of the work week. This makes a regular bun or ponytail more appealing. They are VERY long. This is great because you often use some length depending on the wrap. It's worth it for the price. Highly recommended.
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