Too big. However, I don't think that the shoes themselves are the problem, rather that my son is in an intermediate stage in his search for classic shoes. He wears a figure eight for men in athletic shoes, but the dress shoes appear to be a completely different shoe size based on the construction of the shoe, not the size of the foot (I'm guessing he's a size and a half smaller shoe here). The shoes are attractive and appear to be well made. Would I buy again (just smaller).
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