Update 2. Found a way to improve noise isolation and sound quality. There were problems keeping the respective buds in place. wings removed. Amazing improvement. The wings did not fully seat the tips. Now more comfortable with better sound. Rating increased to 5! updates. i keep them Rating increased to 4. Improved version of lockdown tips. Much better. ANC is limited but ok in some situations. For the price you don't have to buy the best tips. _________ I have an ambivalent attitude. Love and hate. Still considering whether to send them back. Can't believe all the 5 star reviews. The whole discussion about the fake so-called verified buyer on Revain made me suspicious. In my opinion they are not very good. Good but not great. I give them 3.5. -1 for lack of decent acoustic isolation and limited automatic noise reduction. -.5 for a tricky fit. I even tried Comply which helps some but not enough in my opinion. I've had many other headphones. Have been waiting for someone who actually delivers at a reasonable price. Something seems to be coming out this year. I want to immerse myself in music at a relatively low volume without making a sound. Either excellent isolation or ANC will eliminate most external noise and voices. These Phiaton headphones don't have either. The ANC usually makes things worse. This can reduce low-frequency noise, but it often makes the sounds of people speaking clearer and more distracting. Sometimes I find it better to turn off ANC and put up with noise. Turn up the volume. Disappointed. The sound is very good when the conditions are right. Better than most in my experience. When there is no external noise. If I had to choose today, I would probably leave her. If something better falls, they will support it.
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