These are nice jeans but they are very light. Maybe good for spring/summer but not for fall/winter. You are really big. I ordered a size smaller and it was just right. When I compared them to other jeans (Nautica) in the same size (4), they were about an inch and a half longer. Compared to size 4 Levis, they were 2+ inches longer and wider at the waist. I hope this helps you choose the right size. They seem organic, but at the moment they are too light for our needs.
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