At first I didn't like that they were thinner and had a different (cheaper) look, but now I like them. They're not like Levi's, they're much softer and thinner. I wash them in hot water. They get very baggy after two wears (regular Levi's and jeans keep their shape in the office). I wash after 2 socks anyway, but it's frustrating when I'm running errands or traveling (life extension). They bleed after the 1st wash - be careful. I only wash black clothes even if they are blue (like indigo blue).
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