This is the perfect size and I probably should have gone up a half size but it's not that bad. Don't treat them like laces when you buy shoes your size - treat them like not-so-comfortable shoes that stay on your feet. I removed the laces and now it's like pumps or canvas loafers, which Alexis Leroy also sells. They sit great when you're on your feet, so start at 4/5 otherwise for style and comfort. UPDATE: 5/5, wearing them for a few weeks loosened them to perfect laces (still for style) and very comfortable.