I use them for TV. (my wife never wants to hear it). They sounded very good. The problem I had was that when I leaned back in my chair and turned my head, the battery/controller hanging down is heavy and can snag on my shirt and pull the headphones out of my ear. If they designed it with the battery/controller around their neck I would love them. That's the only reason I sent them back. There is Bluetooth in the ear with a battery inferior to HF.
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