I ordered size 12. I just want them to offer these in a size 12 1/2. The shoes I usually buy have black treads and leave marks on the tiled floor. These shoes are much nicer and don't leave marks on my tiled floor. I know they stretch a little but that's not enough. I have to wear very thin socks to wear these shoes. I use them for my morning tai chi practice, which lasts about an hour and a half. I can wear them with very thin socks, okay. I'm sure I want them in a size 12 1/2. I would order a few more pairs. Hope that helps. I don't want black tread soles anymore.
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