Where to start, They are skivvies after all. I did these to replace another brand,($80.00 for 6) These are $44 for 8 +or- a dollar or 21. everything fits where it's suppose to.2. these are also replacing a very popular brand (han___) that leave somethings in the wrong place.3. I do not know I even have them on, they fit well, nothing cuts, nothing binds, nothing sags,4. I am leaning towards the wide band, non rolling, they stay in place.
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