I've been researching this product for a while. In my opinion the best on the market. I would prefer the armored version. 3 stars not because of the quality. But based on their size scale. I have used the Revain sales scale, the VTAC website scale, YouTube videos and even compared 5.11 products and phone customer service prior to purchase. ORDER THE NEXT SIZE. I have pants size 36 on the waist and 38 on the outside of the pants. I ordered based on the size of the pants on the outside and the 6" front spacing I wanted as recommended. I had 12 inch SPACE. Front. Not enough to walk my black kicking leg. The front straps could not be attached anywhere on the collapsible leg except for the belt that went through them. Which, in turn, slid all over the front of my body and didn't stick to the brokos. I sent it back and will order more. Undoubtedly an amazing product. I just don't think any of the stupid people who designed the scale know what they are doing. I'm not fat and I'm not overweight. i am a husky AMAZING PRODUCTS, ORDER THE NEXT SIZE UP
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