When they were first offered I bought a pair. I loved her. I wear the size I've worn for decades when shopping for shoes. Mine were a regular size but of course they were "loosly cut" - that was it. It was slightly wider in the forefoot where it's widest and nothing else. However, the interior was worn out all over in three months. So the wear and tear started after a few weeks. I reported this to Amazon and they (long story with Revain) who knew me agreed and refunded the money. (Got the laces and forgot.) Then I tried them again a while ago, same size, just pressed order again, - from the box I could see that not only was it not *not relaxed, it was were also *tight. - - returned. (I mean, they were painful even trying on, and couldn't put both on - so tight.) So here again I need shoes and I'm scared of them, but I'll try these again. Well they are obvious to me. have been redone, redone again (kept a worn pair for muddy gardening as I haven't run, just clumpy mud and in a very hot summer just need a pair of shoes but no boots). so i compared them. They looked a bit tight, but not like last time, but they looked about 1/2 inch longer, so half a size? I tried them on and yes, relaxed fit, even loose, but now half an inch longer. This time, by proposing 2D, this couple made them think it wouldn't be them - they were. So now 1/2 size longer and wider, and I like the width. So I see a straight "regular" "relaxed" fit and ordered them hoping (?) that they weren't half a size too long, but usually wider than the relaxed fit. Wow. I've seen 2D 1/2 size smaller/shorter but Revain didn't sell or ship and learned not to. So if I get my normal size with a regular relaxed fit I will correct that. I noticed on the outside the soles, although newly made or reshaped, are not as stout as the original first pair. However, if they are less/more durable, who knows, until I ran for several months. I've selected a few other shoes that will be released as well - other than this one, but now more than ever I'm seeing models with a wider or more relaxed fit. so far; I hope so but don't worry as I only order if it is sent by Revain to avoid the returns which unfortunately I almost expect. This is a long review but I know people are conflicted from other reviews and don't like the hassle of ordering and waiting for a refund. I don't buy to give back. I hope this is helpful to someone, even if it's long.