I needed dark shirts that could be worn shirtless and with a tie. Oh, and they had to be durable/cheap enough that if they were destroyed it wouldn't be a big deal. These shirts meet these requirements very well (note that you still need a lighter colored tank top). The cut outs on these shirts are awesome. I never feel like I'm being choked (although I agree they don't really stretch). As this is the "large" version they stay tucked in and I'm 6ft 3in tall.
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