Unfortunately my second floor shower room was leaking and this is where this little saga began. The first step was to pull out the old drain. I started using it even before I ordered WingTite. You'll need to remove the old drain no matter what product you're working with, so you might want to do that first and figure out what you're dealing with. In my case I had an ABS "Oatey" drain. I even went to the hardware store and looked at other Oatey drains to pick up a small tool used to remove the locking ring from inside the drain. The tool usually comes with new stocks. You can buy the tool at your local supermarket - buy a new drain if needed. Often there are a lot of tools that have been separated from their drainage bags and they only give you one. A small device is inserted into the drain from above, you insert a screwdriver, turn it and the retaining ring moves out. In my case it didn't work. It got harder and harder and just didn't work. I ended up drilling a "retaining ring" to try and push it out. Well, surprise! There is no locking ring. What I thought was the locking ring was part of the drain body. I have one of those horrible solvent welded drains that is glued to the riser. At this point, I drill a series of small holes around the perimeter of the drain, being careful not to damage the riser and shower pan. I take a hacksaw and hold it in my gloved hand and cut all these little holes and separate the body of the downcomer from the riser. Then I cut the drain body as shown in the instructions and remove the drain body. I have a riser with about an inch and a half of the drain body glued to it. There really isn't a good way to separate the ABS pipe from the drain body. Obviously you can't stick Wingtite on it in this condition. The answer is to cut the riser with a special 'internal pipe cutter' (Amazon has them, look for it, it looks like a large cut-off wheel with a dremel). ). You insert a pipe cutter into the drill bit and cut the pipe down about three to four inches. Then go to a hardware store and buy a 2 inch ABS pipe, some ABS glue and a 2 inch ABS coupler. Cut the tube slightly shorter than the one you just removed and glue the sleeve on top. Now coat the pipe under the sump with glue (tricky through the drain hole but doable). Lubricate the sleeve with some glue and slide it into the hole on the cut riser. Give it a little twist if you can. Hooray! I have now repaired the vertical pipe by installing a smooth and clean pipe that should fit the WingTite o-ring snugly with no leaks. The rest of the installation worked according to the instructions. It's been about an hour since the work was completed. I would say it took me 2 to 3 hours plus driving time to the hardware store. I don't expect leaks. I'll post when I get it. I think there is room for improvement in the product. I wish there was a double o-ring instead of a single o-ring. It would also calm me down. I wish they would make a longer version for those of us with taped drains so we can just cut the riser and put in a new drain. The guy or guys who complained about the cost of WingTite. yes it is expensive Really expensive for what it is. That's capitalism for you, there's always the option to cut out a piece of drywall and install a $7 drain on the underside and then patch, texture, prime and paint the drywall again and then it probably will never look right. For the rest of us, there's WingTite, and it's worth the money.
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