After trying them on I sent them back and bought something similar from Skechers a few miles away. I wear them without socks; if I want to wear socks, I wear lace-up shoes. I like to just put them on when necessary. I found them a bit small (neat?). My real gripe with them is that the back of the healing area (where the webbing loop is) really digs into my ankle, making them very uncomfortable. I have found this to be the case with many similar Skechers shoes. I ended up with model #65000 and am very happy with it. I would also like to add that I bought these from Revain as I had a pair of Relaxed Fit Elected Drigo shoes but the style is slightly different on the toes. I think the style I had before has a lower back that doesn't dig into my ankle.