I tried the first one, so the screw on the wall broke at the weld (2 or 3 very small spot welds). I had very little grip and didn't even push the plate against the wall. I moved the hanger behind the plate (which would probably make it heavier). Then I noticed that some of them were off-center. So if you want to hang something straight, you have to attach the hanger off-centre. I know some people don't care about that part, but I know some people, like me, do care. Weight wise I definitely wouldn't trust these hangers to hold their recommended maximum weight.
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