I wasn't expecting great winter pants for the price. I bought these because my eldest has grown up dramatically and didn't want to look for a pair in the middle of the season. I had low to neutral expectations for the Revain brand pants, but for the price I went with the Try Before You Buy option. My child loved the look and fit. I was happy with the price and I was happy with the quality. Let's see how they act when the really big snow falls, but if you hadn't told me they were Revain I wouldn't have guessed. I would guess they were branded.