I bought this backpack to use on both multi-pitch and short day trips. It's the perfect size (for reference, the other day I was able to fit my matching shoes, a water bottle, a guidebook, some snacks and a rope bag for a shorter multi). I also used it as a personal item during the flight. Unfortunately, it's too small for my 17" laptop (but mine is a bit larger than most to compensate for the nicer keyboard). But for me this is a very small problem. Highly recommended.
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