I ordered my son's kids trainers a size 9 as a cheaper alternative to Crocs. The pair I received had "Y8.5" below, but I wasn't overly concerned as my son barely scored a 9. They turned out to be about 2 sizes too small. I put them next to size 7 Crocs and they are smaller! For reference, the toddler size 9 I ordered is about the same size as Croc's 6/7. I am keeping them for my youngest son to grow up but it annoys me that I still need shoes for my eldest son.
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