I had a similar pair of dockers for everyday wear because I liked the style of the loafers. As I slipped on this new pair, I remembered something I forgot about my first pair: the inner lining makes it almost impossible to put socks on, so wearing them in fall and winter comes with a certain struggle and feeling of being there to be. break the toes of everything but the thinnest of socks. My first pair wore out eventually, but for better or worse, they're made to stay on your feet when you're not wearing socks (like on a boat). Overall, however, I bought them because my first pair was extraordinarily comfortable and they ended up being the same. Especially in summer. However, if you plan to wear them with thick socks, you might want to buy half a size larger.