I really liked these midbass! They play in the front doors from the Hertz ep4 amplifier through the processor. They give a very confident soft "bass"! I tuned it from 45 to 1500Hz with a cutoff of 18db / oct, paired with coaxial Hertz DCX 87.3, which stick out in the dashboard and are dissolved from 1500 to 20k Hz. I personally am fine! They will not open from the standard head unit. Only from the amplifier, and either through the crossover or processor. But the Hertz CX165, I still ended up in the rear doors for "volume", and there is no comparison with the C165L. I think so!
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