
They were too big for a chubby guy like me but I can't wear them in public because they look too much like underwear. Manufacturers have to decide whether it's underwear or outerwear because it's not clear! The brand name along with the belt make it look like underwear, but that's not a problem if your t-shirt is hanging over it. But the groin seams make it look like underwear, which confuses people. It is better to place a graphic on the side of the shorts and the brand logo on the bottom right corner of the shorts to make it clear that it is outerwear. Like this one (unfortunately out of stock at the moment). Shorts&qid=1551007963&s=gateway&sr=8-49