As many other reviews have said these suction cups are boxed which causes them to deform on arrival. As a result, they do not stick to the surface. The good news is, once you've shaped them properly (dip them in hot water for a few seconds, wrap a softball with a rubber band and set in the sun; work them by hand to reshape them ), they work fine. The two different versions are ESPECIALLY comfortable, one for the seat and the other for the support lines.
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