I use this with my Ipad Mini 5. I have a pencil for my Ipad Pro but I have to be honest. I see, feel or find no difference between them and a pencil. He feels better, charges better, writes EXACTLY the same. It is really a perfect assistant for iPad mini. If you're both a professional user and an artist - I'll stick with Apple Pencil just because they're pressure sensitive (the harder you press the thinker onto the line). Otherwise take Penoval. You also save $60.
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