there is f310, f510 (already killed in the trash) now there is also a wireless option. Everything about them suits me and survivability and build quality. some Sony ones seem too soft, apparently just got used to the tight Logitek ones. Haven't tried xbox. Cheap defenders and others like them did not appreciate at all. Different pros: Wireless, there are simply no analogues of such price and quality ( Cons below: by wire, if you suddenly feel impatient, you canβt connect
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