i ordered them last september early october and i put them on brand new, it was cold and rained yesterday, i let my son carry them and when i put them on, this tear, now the return window is closed, I can't return it, they sell spoiled things to people, and I look at them when they came, but when I put it on, it broke. So it is clear that I received a damaged item. Don't buy, not worth your money.