I really hope that the Moen quality that I'm used to is still there because whoever came up with the new installation system, should be fired. Incredibly easy to install, takes less than 5 minutes. nightmare to remove it. It took me almost an hour to remove one of the retainers because honestly how can I put a microscopic hard plastic clip that doesn't flex through a small hole and pull to release it, I can't. Whatever you use to press the clip will get in the way. The only reason I was successful was because I damaged the clip so much it broke. To be honest I was about to cut through the drywall to get it. I would buy again because I love Moen and have never had a problem with their products. However, I would change my current "yes, it looks good in there" method of installation and spend weeks of careful planning and trial installation to ensure it is installed just once and stays there for the rest of the house's life.
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