My daughter loves these shoes! She wears a size 8 for women but because the reviews said it runs small she wanted an 8 1/2. The reason they run small is because there is so much padding inside for comfort. We ordered a size 7 (men's size is the same as women's 8 1/2) and they fit perfectly. So order at least 1/2 size smaller and if they are for women use the size conversion chart as the size you order will be a men's size.