Pretty useless markers. Little more than a glorified highlighter. The cap is very cumbersome to work with even when clipped to your shirt pocket.They are marketed as "industrial" but after some light use, the marker totally failed. It simply doesn't put out enough ink. I bought these to use for marking concrete and metal. I understand that they might not be made for that but still an "industrial" marker should have brought a better result. A good jobsite sharpie works way better and a paint pen would be even better than that!The picture shows what it looks like on wood. This marker is on the left next to a ball point pen and a highlighter.
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