I have a thirty nine inch waist. I ordered a size thirty eight. Upon on trying them on, they fell down. They will stretch to about forty four inches around the waist. With a belt they bundle up around my waist, not comfy. I guess if you had a heavy weight shirts on they would be a better fit. I don't know how they size these things. I guess the inspector holds them up to the light."Looks like it might be somewhere around a thirty eight, ship it." Outside of the size thing, not bad pants so far. Did a fairly good job at forty five degrees and a twenty five MPM north wind, As long as your moving around, standing still they cool off. Time will tell how they hold up.
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