This is an update of a previous review. Both Dockers Mahogany franchises in July 2015; I love them so much I got the black version in May 2016. It took 4 1/2 years for the soles to start wearing out excessively; The brown ones have thin holes in one of the boots so my foot gets wet in the rain or snow. Black almost made it too. I was going to give them three stars but I had to go into my order history to see how long they lasted; For online rubber soled shoes that cannot be replaced, they were DEFINITELY worth the prices paid. The only problem I have now is that the mahogany ones are no longer sold and the quality of the newer versions has gone down [according to other reviewers]; I'm a bit confused because these Dockers laceless loafers were the best shoe for my comfort and fit I've ever worn. Still, it's worth the chance 4 years later.