These were huge for my daughter! She normally fits a 10-12 pair of pants which I ordered but they were big enough around her waist for me to wear. Since the lace is for show only, we weren't able to tighten it. The length was perfect so I'm afraid if we scale them down for the next one they will be too short. Regardless of the size, they were incredibly soft and my very picky teenager actually gave them a thumbs up for that. I haven't decided yet if I will return them if they are accepted. If it weren't so hard for me to find a pair of soft navy sweatpants I would return them, but since it's next to impossible I'd try to get them. myself.
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