Reading the great customer reviews I think I really expected the same quality and size from large pins that were commonly sold a few years ago. I am so disappointed. I will say they are a bit heavier than another brand I've tried recently but they are not what I needed or what I expected. I have long, thick hair that needs to be curled to keep it from frizzing. (No curling iron will help) It would have been nice if I just wanted them to style my hair, but the bobby pins lost their shape the first time they were used with curlers. For God's sake! They are marked with roller pins. They must not be deformed! (I've included a picture showing the good old pins that I'm trying to replace with these "rolling pins" to give a visual representation of the size difference and the "popping out" results after one use. You can see in the picture that these rolling pins are pins (gold) much thinner/thinner than the old ones (sad looking dark ones) and the curvature on top is a bit less). I think my search for good pins has started again!
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