
I am about 5ft tall and weigh about 130 pounds. I have tiny calves, decent sized thighs, but can't have anything tight on my waste. I get cramps. So, sometimes it's hard for me to find things that fit. I'm not over weight, but not fit. I wear a size 10-12 in misses. maybe size 9 or 11 juniors. IDK I haven't gone pants shopping since last winter. But now that it's coming up, I'll need some leggings that will stay up!. I ordered a size L. These are indeed thick. Nice fit. I don't have a big butt, so they keep falling down/don't stay up on me. Also, it did get a little uncomfortable near the crotch area. At times, it felt like it kept shifting. I don't love it, but I don't hate it. I've gotten worse products ordering from online. LOL it's always risky fit and quality wise. Fit wise - they are true to size for Large. Quality, they are good, the only thing was the shifting around and not staying up because I have no butt.I live in Minnesota, and it hasn't gotten cold enough for me to test the warmth yet. Will update after winter.

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