These aren't bad shoes but after trying them on and realizing they weren't for me I sent them back. They ripped off the company, in return they said there was noticeable wear and tear with stones in the grooves and grass stains. I wore them at home in Minnesota for about 45 minutes in March, there was no grass in the house, no outside, no rocks. I only received half of my refund because of those fake stones and grass stains. Make sure you get exactly what you want from this company or you get half your money back on a returned item in perfect condition.